Bridged repeater with 8800nl and 8200n

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bogmonster
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Bridged repeater with 8800nl and 8200n

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Hi,
I have a billion 8800nl router and happy with it. I need a bit more reach for the wifi but want a secure approach. A wired AP would be great but not easy to achieve neatly in my house without a lot of mucking about. Powerline is causing a lot of interference to the ADSL and the throughput is dire. I am considering bridge repeater using WDS. I can pick up an 8200n cheaply. I believe that both units support WDS with WPA2 so I believe I can use this in bridged repeater mode. Will I have any issues with this do you think? Also, can I use 20/40Mgz? There is very little wifi where I life so 2.4ghz 40mhz is certainly viable from that perspective.
I don’t want to use a generic extender that creates a new subdomain for the extended clients.

EDIT: I guess one issue with the 8200n is no IPv6 support - not really sure when that will be a major issue, probably not for some time but worth considering...

Cheers, BM
billion_fan
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Re: Bridged repeater with 8800nl and 8200n

Post by billion_fan »

bogmonster wrote:Hi,
I have a billion 8800nl router and happy with it. I need a bit more reach for the wifi but want a secure approach. A wired AP would be great but not easy to achieve neatly in my house without a lot of mucking about. Powerline is causing a lot of interference to the ADSL and the throughput is dire. I am considering bridge repeater using WDS. I can pick up an 8200n cheaply. I believe that both units support WDS with WPA2 so I believe I can use this in bridged repeater mode. Will I have any issues with this do you think? Also, can I use 20/40Mgz? There is very little wifi where I life so 2.4ghz 40mhz is certainly viable from that perspective.
I don’t want to use a generic extender that creates a new subdomain for the extended clients.

EDIT: I guess one issue with the 8200n is no IPv6 support - not really sure when that will be a major issue, probably not for some time but worth considering...

Cheers, BM
I think you will have issues as the both devices have a different wireless chipset vendor, (known issue when using WDS)

Maybe you can try another 8800NL ??

More information can be found here viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3440
bogmonster
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Re: Bridged repeater with 8800nl and 8200n

Post by bogmonster »

Ok, thanks.

It's all been a bit upside down as I try to get British Telecom to fix my ADSL line without a lot of success. Anyway, I have a whole new line coming into the property in a different location since I last posted so have had to rethink. At the moment I am getting buy with a DAP-2553 access point which with very careful placement can cover the whole house. Leaving the Billion wifi for my son's use for gaming so he is not in contention with other wireless traffic that might trash his latency.

Interestingly I did play with setting up the DAP-2553 with WDS to the 8800nl. From what I have read getting WDS open and WEP working on dissimilar equipment often works, the problems come with WPA. I tried first with open wifi but failed. The Billion could see the DAP-2553 but the DAP would not scan the Billion for the WDS setup. The DAP-2553 could see the 8800nl in its list of surrounding WAPs along with my chromecast. Strangely the 8800nl was listed as wireless G. I have the Billion set to only accept N clients as I have no G clients. The DAP-2553 was also set to N only. I think this is why the DAP-2553 failed to find the Billion in the bridge scan because it was looking for an n client. Any idea why the billion appears as a G client when it won't accept G? It is connecting as n with regular wireless clients. The DAP-2553 was correctly listing the chromecast as a N WAP.

BM
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Re: Bridged repeater with 8800nl and 8200n

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bogmonster wrote:Ok, thanks.

It's all been a bit upside down as I try to get British Telecom to fix my ADSL line without a lot of success. Anyway, I have a whole new line coming into the property in a different location since I last posted so have had to rethink. At the moment I am getting buy with a DAP-2553 access point which with very careful placement can cover the whole house. Leaving the Billion wifi for my son's use for gaming so he is not in contention with other wireless traffic that might trash his latency.

Interestingly I did play with setting up the DAP-2553 with WDS to the 8800nl. From what I have read getting WDS open and WEP working on dissimilar equipment often works, the problems come with WPA. I tried first with open wifi but failed. The Billion could see the DAP-2553 but the DAP would not scan the Billion for the WDS setup. The DAP-2553 could see the 8800nl in its list of surrounding WAPs along with my chromecast. Strangely the 8800nl was listed as wireless G. I have the Billion set to only accept N clients as I have no G clients. The DAP-2553 was also set to N only. I think this is why the DAP-2553 failed to find the Billion in the bridge scan because it was looking for an n client. Any idea why the billion appears as a G client when it won't accept G? It is connecting as n with regular wireless clients. The DAP-2553 was correctly listing the chromecast as a N WAP.

BM
Not sure why the DAP-2553 is picking up the signal as G only, as N devices are working fine
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